2012 Can Am Spyder Left Front Brake Caliper

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    Default 2014 RT Express Left Front end Restriction Caliper Leaking.

    My 2014 with 1000 miles has a leaking L/F brake caliper . I await at a replacement and meet that it has a $264.00 price tag on information technology. Is anyone aware if at that place is a rebuild kit available for these ?

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    It's uncommon to have a restriction piston seal fail at such a low mileage, I'd be tempted to dismantle the caliper and check the seal for a niggling debris or contagion and bank check the piston for a longitudinal scratch. Be sure to remove the seal from its groove (carefully!) and check the groove for droppings or left over manufacturing swarf. I've seen information technology happen so it'southward non just a judge.

    Fingers crossed, you may go lucky.

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    Thanks for the tip, that's where I volition starting time .

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    I assume it is leaking at the piston? You lot want to exist sure it is not leaking at the bleeder or brake line connection. If it is the piston, I'd exist inclined to dismantle information technology as suggested by PRP. You'll have nothing to lose. If I were to supersede it. I'd become with a used one. These have proven to exist extremely trouble free over the years. Like this 1 on eBay. I'd say information technology will do you equally good as a new ane.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-xiv-CAN...0AAOSwBJxd5-xw

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    Another great tip ! Never idea of eBay.

    I have a friend who races Trans Am Two and he hooked me up with the company that handles his caliper repairs. They are confident that they can reseal it as they routinely deal with Brembo .

    The caliper is in a box and will be on information technology's way to them in the morning. A bonus is that they will force per unit area test information technology when they are done.

    Can't believe in that location isn't a kit available for these merely an expensive replacement.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BajaRon View Post

    I assume it is leaking at the piston? You desire to be sure it is not leaking at the bleeder or brake line connection itself. If information technology is the piston, I'd be inclined to dismantle it as suggested past PRP. You'll take nothing to lose. If I were to replace it. I'd go with a used one. These have proven to be extremely problem free over the years. Like this one on eBay. I'd say it will do you as good every bit a new one.

    https://world wide web.ebay.com/itm/2014-14-Tin can...0AAOSwBJxd5-xw

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    Where did you get it done? I've already ordered a replacement for my font left caliper, simply it would be nice to know wher to go information technology stock-still if information technology happens with one of the others.

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    The shop is in Mooresville NC . If they are successful I'll mail service the name and contact info.

    Does anyone know the front caliper bolt torque spec ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by petew View Post

    The shop is in Mooresville NC . If they are successful I'll mail service the proper noun and contact info.

    Does anyone know the front end caliper bolt torque spec ?

    Keen information! Though I assumed in that location were places to get Brembo components worked on. I was not enlightened of whatsoever specific vendor for this kind of service. Very anxious to hear the results and pricing.

    I think restriction system manufacturers quit offering rebuild kits due to liability issues. It is a shame that all these legal claims accept gone a long way towards limiting our options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BajaRon View Post

    Nifty information! Though I causeless at that place were places to get Brembo components worked on. I was not aware of any specific vendor for this kind of service. Very anxious to hear the results and pricing.

    I think brake organisation manufacturers quit offering rebuild kits due to liability bug. It is a shame that all these legal claims accept gone a long fashion towards limiting our options.

    Well Ron y'all are exactly right about the liability upshot subject.
    When I chosen and talked to these folks well-nigh repairing the caliper the gentleman was hesitant at first because it is a motorcycle caliper and they are not a motorcycle shop.
    My friend does a lot of business with them and that may be the just reason that he is willing to fix the caliper. I had to clinch him that I don't sue people that exercise favors for me, information technology fact in my 62 years I accept never sued a soul.
    It is a damned shame that information technology has come to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petew View Post

    Well Ron y'all are exactly correct virtually the liability issue field of study.
    When I called and talked to these folks nigh repairing the caliper the gentleman was hesitant at first considering it is a motorcycle caliper and they are not a motorcycle shop.
    My friend does a lot of business with them and that may be the only reason that he is willing to set up the caliper. I had to assure him that I don't sue people that do favors for me, it fact in my 62 years I accept never sued a soul.
    Information technology is a damned shame that it has come to this.

    Sounds like you lot've got this worked out. Just you lot might desire to impress upon him that it is a 3 wheeled, reverse trike with a very good VSS, Anti-Lock braking organisation. Not nearly as Litigation Prone equally a two wheeled vehicle might be.

    As I said, very interested in the outcome here. Though it sounds like it may be a i shot bargain. If this goes well, your provider might be open to more than Spyder/Ryker concern!

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    That'south very annoying. We disassembled the caliper - it'south leaking for the outside rear piston from the looks of the residue. Pulled all the pistons, cleaned everything as well as possible and re-installed and it's nevertheless leaking. Its simply one piston seal, no dust seal, yous'd call up they'd exist like shooting fish in a barrel to source.

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    You tin can try Apple Hydraulics in Caverlton NY
    I have used them in the past for automotive calipers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wahrsuul View Post

    That's very abrasive. We disassembled the caliper - it's leaking for the exterior rear piston from the looks of the residue. Pulled all the pistons, cleaned everything too as possible and re-installed and it's even so leaking. Its just 1 piston seal, no dust seal, you'd think they'd exist easy to source.

    This is where you have to be severely logical with yourself... in that location must be a fault you missed, perchance a scratch on the piston, a nick in the seal, a bit of debris or even a hair line crack. Square section seals tin be purchased and foursquare section O-band cord can too be purchased so you can make your own seals. Google will be your friend. To start you off.... https://www.globaloring.com/square-rings/

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    During my quest to find a rebuild kit I spoke to a Brembo dealer, nice guy and he seemed to know his concern. He said that at that place was an internal o ring that sealed the "crossover passage" between the caliper body halves. His claim was that if this o ring was bad and so the caliper would leak out of the body and non the bores.

    Never took mine apart so I don't know if he is correct or wrong.


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    Quote Originally Posted by petew View Post

    During my quest to discover a rebuild kit I spoke to a Brembo dealer, nice guy and he seemed to know his business. He said that there was an internal o ring that sealed the "crossover passage" between the caliper body halves. His claim was that if this o ring was bad then the caliper would leak out of the body and not the bores.

    Never took mine autonomously and so I don't know if he is correct or wrong.

    I retrieve he is correct, that is common practise, sometimes it'southward a circular section O-band and sometimes a square section O-band. Extremely unlikely to leak unless in that location was contagion at the build time. Listen you, I'd say that well-nigh the principal seal too.
    Just for completeness, a main seal fault I've seen is for the square section seal to be picked upwardly for a wee length by the insertion of the piston and information technology roll 90 degrees in the groove. Information technology sealed for a fourth dimension just then began to cry.

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    Kind of strange that there'southward be a seal in a crossover passage. Near as I can tell, the caliper is ane slice, information technology didn't have two different halves joined together.

    Yes, I could perchance have found the proper seals for information technology, but that requires some seriously accurate measurements that I'm not confident I could do. So I'd either have to send them out, or just keep trying different sizes till I got it correct. Either of which puts the tryke out of committee for a while. Perchance if I go a mind to, I'll pull it apart again after the replacement comes in and start the hunt for seals for next time.

    And yes, we could take missed something - we're older and our vision may not be the best, only everything felt smooth as best we could tell. But with the pressures brakes are nether it doesn't take much for a leak.

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    I hate it when people mail service virtually problems looking for information and then never share the fix or result.
    Not wanting to exist that guy I'g going to stop my leaky caliper story.

    The shop in Due north Carolina that does the caliper work for my friends race car was able to rebuild my caliper. He does not desire to do them and just did mine as a favor because of my friend. He did withal share some information with me that may be helpful to others with a leaky caliper.

    What he told me is that this caliper is as well used on quite a few other motorcycles like Harley, Aprilia and some others so they are not Can Am only.

    They have 32mm bores and he was able to use off the shelf 32mm Brembo seals that he uses in his race machine caliper rebuilds. He did not provide a part number but a footling searching on the internet turned up Brembo 32mm race caliper seals pretty chop-chop.

    And so while I haven't told y'all much I think the seals could exist found without too much problem.

    Does anyone take any tips on bleeding this system ? Some of what I take seen says that if the key is left off the bleeding can be accomplished without tripping any trouble codes. I likewise read something virtually not pushing the pedal all the way to the bottom during the bleeding process ?

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    Since your just bleeding ane caliper. Leave the fundamental off and either do a mighty vac power bleed from the caliper nipple or just do an erstwhile schoolhouse pedal button. Just don't push button the pedal all the way down. You can search the internet for tips on proper haemorrhage methods, but don't turn on the cardinal so as to not trip any fault codes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KX5062 View Post

    Since your just haemorrhage one caliper. Leave the key off and either do a mighty vac power bleed from the caliper nipple or simply do an onetime school pedal push. But don't push the pedal all the way down. Yous can search the net for tips on proper haemorrhage methods, but don't turn on the central and so as to not trip any fault codes.

    Erm, what is the issue with pushing the pedal completely down?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkRosePetal View Post

    Erm, what is the consequence with pushing the pedal completely downward?

    Technically nothing, but if yous push it all the way down and don't have the timing for endmost off the valve correct, it tin innovate air into the system.

    I've found the all-time way to do it is to pump information technology up and then push gently down on the pedal/lever whilst opening the drain valve. Every bit you feel the lever/pedal collapse, close off the valve earlier it hits bottom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KX5062 View Post

    Technically nothing, but if yous button it all the style downward and don't have the timing for endmost off the valve correct, it can introduce air into the arrangement.

    I've found the best mode to do it is to pump it up and so button gently downward on the pedal/lever whilst opening the bleed valve. As you experience the lever/pedal collapse, shut off the valve before information technology hits bottom.

    Man, you must take incredibly loooong arms/legs to pump the pedal and shut/open the valve all the way over on the left brake. Ya'll need to get a brake drain vacuum pump with a one-manner valve connected close to the bleeder valve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revalden View Post

    Man, you must have incredibly loooong arms/legs to pump the pedal and close/open up the valve all the way over on the left restriction. Ya'll need to get a brake bleed vacuum pump with a one-mode valve connected shut to the bleeder valve.

    I got one, but I prefer to do it the hard/former fashioned manner. Improve feel for what'south going on. I've got the kids and wife trained to do forth with me.

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